Hey friend — we jump into the new Michael Jackson biopic, why the family-backed take has me curious, and why the story about Joe Jackson still gets people fired up. I’m excited for the music and the nostalgia, and yeah, I might even head to the theater for this one.

Then we run through the summer slate — Mando, Nolan’s Odyssey, Supergirl, Spider-Man — and chat about whether great movies can still bring folks back to theaters. Popcorn ready?