The Honorable Michèle Flournoy, one of the most accomplished national security professionals working in the United States today, served as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy from 2009 to 2012 and co-founded the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). She is now the CEO of WestExec Advisors, where she helps make connections between the U.S. national security establishment and important industry partners. In this episode, Ms. Flournoy joins the podcast for a wide-ranging discussion of her career, the challenges of civilian leadership at the Pentagon, the military-industrial complex, and military politicization.

Credits:

Thomas Krasnican, host

Nick Paraiso, host

Haz Yano, producer

Alec MacMillen, engineer

Aishwarya Kumar, producer

Mary Martha Maclay, producer

Special thanks to Lieutenant Alberto Ramos.

This podcast is in no way intended to reflect the official positions of the Department of Defense or any other military entity.