Show Notes: 
In today's episode, we are joined by two very special women, Michelle Andrews and Zara McDonald. This is the second time the @Shameless duo have graced the KIC Pod and we were so excited to catch up and chat through their learnings since their business and brand has grown exponentially. They have just released their first book which they co-authored, The Space Between, which covers everything they have navigated so far in their twenties. We touch on relationships, success, finding your voice and so much more. We hope you enjoy this one as much as we do. 

KIC SPECIAL SHARES:
Steph: The Karate Kidwith Jayden Smith
Laura: I am Woman on Stan


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Michelle and Zara - Navigating your 20's

KICPOD is a D&amp;M with your besties on the stuff that matters. Hosted by Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw, founders of Kic, a health &amp; wellness app that focuses on feeling your best, not looking a certain way. To learn more you can find them on Instagram at @kicpod, @kic.app, @stephclairesmith and @laura.henshaw or visit their website kicapp.com

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This episode is tough but a really important conversation for every parent and person with young people in their lives. Grooming refers to an older child or adult establishing a trusting relationship with a child or their family to sexually abuse or exploit the child. The average age that a child is abused is 6.8 years old and 90% of children who are abused know their abuser. 
To help make sense of it all, Steph speaks with Jayneen Sanders. Jayneen is a mum of three, author and educator who writes children’s books on body boundaries, respect, consent, body safety, feelings and emotions.
In this episode, they speak about what grooming actually is, the red flags parents can look out for, how parents can live with the fear of letting their children out of their sights, what to do if you suspect your child is being groomed, and what support exists.
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Raising Children Network https://raisingchildren.net.au/ 
Centre Against Sexual Assault https://casacv.org.au/ 
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Recognising the signs of grooming and what to do about it - KICBUMP with Jayneen Sanders

It feels like only yesterday that we were sitting in our cars recording this podcast on our iPhones and now you’ve downloaded us over 14 MILLION (!) times in places as far and wide as Greeland and Jamaica. 
For KICPOD’s 5th birthday we take a trip down memory lane from them to now, reflect on what making this podcast means to us and hear what the podcast means to you.
Plus! We think five years is a good time to give you guys a nickname. Tell us in our Facebook group what you want to be called ;)
And last one! We’re doing a KICPOD survey to try and get to know you a little better. Tell us what you think and you’ll go in the running to win a $100 Visa e-gift voucher https://form.typeform.com/to/wzd5Wuuu 
Thanks for spending the last five years with us. We love you <3 
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What we've learned from 5 years of KICPOD

If you’ve ever questioned if you’re on the right path and wished you could ask someone who’s no longer alive what they think, a psychic medium could help connect you. Jessica Lynne is a psychic medium who’s dedicated herself to connecting the living with their departed loved ones. Steph & Laura both received a reading from Jess, and in this episode, they unpack it together.
Find out: how Jess actually connects with departed loved ones, what you should do with the information you get from a medium, can you still get a reading even if you’ve never lost someone, and how skeptical is too skeptical?
Then Steph & Laura share parts of their own readings with Jess and how the readings align to things they’re both working through right now.
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Unpacking our psychic medium readings with Jessica Lynne Mediumship

People are commenting on Laura's TikTok telling her she should divorce her husband Dalton. And you know what? Laura couldn't care less.
Plus! Steph had a moment when she realised something she was doing to “save time” actually ended up worse off than if she’d put in effort to begin with. So we asked you…what do you to “save” time that ends up taking you longer? If you hate putting away your washing or taking out the recycling, we see you.
And hi Alice! You guys love seeing Alice on the Kic Instagram and TikTok so we brought her into the studio to say hello.
SPECIAL SHARES

Steph: Road House on Amazon Prime
Laura: Search History by Amy Taylor

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Should Laura get a divorce?

If you haven’t been to kinder since you were IN kinder, you’ve probably forgotten what it’s all about and what the big deal is. So as Harvey gets closer to kindergarten age, Steph speaks with early childhood consultant Catharine Hydon about all things kindergarten. 
They talk the big things, like: what do our kids actually learn at kinder, how does it help them transition to school, and how is my kid developing emotionally and social at that age? And the little things, like: how early do I have to enrol, dealing with tears at drop off, and does my kid need to be fully toilet trained to attend? 
This episode of KICBUMP is sponsored by the Department of Education Victoria.
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Check out The Australian Children’s Education & Care Quality Authority https://www.acecqa.gov.au/ 
Check out Raising Children Network https://raisingchildren.net.au/ 
Learn more about Catharine https://www.hydonconsulting.com/profile 
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Michelle and Zara - Navigating your 20's

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