I had the privilege to interview my friend Michelle Garner of the writing duo OG Rose. I've been enjoying and learning from their book "Belonging Again" and their Youtube channel. So check em out! The breadth and depth of their work is astonishing.

Michelle and I got to briefly touch on their work as it relates to "givens" and "releases" and how these states of being coincide with a sense of belonging. We then touched on paranoia and how philosophy can potentially rescue us from crippling anxiety that is connected with our sense of certainty. Lastly, we briefly touch on Das Ding ... if that's even possible ... pretty sure we nailed it and there's nothing more for anyone to need to say on the matter.