Dame Clarissa Burt is a tornado!!!  She has done everything and, better, talks about everything.  After 20+ years as a runway model in Europe, she came back to the US, produced Miss Universe, started her own production company and, just for fun, I think she ran NASA for a few years in the '90s.  And yes, she's a Dame, so don't screw with her, or me, now that I know her.  Clarissa is a ton of fun with a ton of stories and, somehow, some way, she's 65.  You have to watch the podcast to believe it.