Joan Williams is Director of the Centre for WorkLife Law, a professor at the University of California—Hastings School of Law, and author of White Working Class, among others. Joan compares America’s middle class with its elites, talks the role masculinity plays in politics, and explains the divide that college education causes.

[2:57] What middle status in America really looks like

[8:50] College-educated but not rich

[9:52] What do you value: stability or self-development?

[14:25] Blue collar vs. white collar masculinity

[16:56] John Fetterman’s success

[21:10] The diploma divide

More from Joan:

diplomadivide.org

https://joancwilliams.com/

@JoanCWilliams