How good is Mike Hosking? Really, really good. His brilliant recent interview with the Prime Minister has done all of us a massive favour.

Like so many others, Hosking has clearly had a gutsful of Christopher Luxon’s corporate speak. And he told him so.

The Newstalk ZB host was simply trying to get a straightforward answer from the PM: Would he have sacked Andrew Bayly as a minister if Bayly hadn’t quit?

Instead of a simple “yes” or “no,” the Prime Minister rambled on with a grab-bag of corporate clichés that simply didn’t make any sense.

Luxon was delivering world-class waffle, and it took world-class interviewing from Hosking to decipher it.