Part 1 of a 2 part convo with long sought-after and long-awaited guest: artist, musician, fashion designer, entrepreneur, and "student of magic", Shabbat. She receives a wake-up call [she didn't know was recording] and reciprocates.  This pod was impromptu and recored while I was traveling in the car, so please tolerate the not-so-ideal audio quality.  Pinning Shabbat down for a pod is like the singing frog in the cartoon, behind the curtain, its "all fire", and when the curtain opens, its "crickets". Part 1 is a bit fun and personal and part 2 gets into "some things", so make sure to check out Part 2 coming soon!