n this episode of Mind Your Business, David Pawsey sits down with Jody Raynsford to unpack the story behind a business built on bold thinking, sharp positioning and community-first marketing.
From journalism and copywriting to building the cult-favourite Bad Boy Running podcast, Jody shares how doing things differently helped him create a loyal audience and shape a distinctive approach to brand strategy.
A standout moment in the episode is Jody’s take on launching his book, How to Start a Cult. Rather than following a standard formula, he took inspiration from an unlikely source — Cliff Richard and the idea of the Christmas number one — turning the launch into a themed, community-powered campaign that rallied people behind it and made the whole thing feel like an event.
The conversation also digs into Jody’s refreshing view of marketing: that the most effective marketing is not bland, polished or designed to please everyone. It works best when it’s authentic, clear in what it stands for, and divisive enough to attract the right people while putting off the wrong ones. In Jody’s world, trying to appeal to everyone is usually the fastest route to being ignored.
David and Jody explore how Bad Boy Running grew by embracing humour, in-jokes, honesty and a clear set of shared beliefs — proving that strong communities are built less on constant content and more on consistency, identity and connection.
What you’ll hear in this episode
How Jody moved from journalism into brand strategy and challenger-brand messaging
The origins of Bad Boy Running and why its rough-around-the-edges style helped it stand out
Why strong positioning matters more than trying to please everyone
How authenticity and a willingness to be polarising can make marketing far more effective
What most brands get wrong about community building
The story behind Jody’s book launch and the unexpected Cliff Richard-inspired strategy behind it
Why consistency builds trust more than polished perfection ever will
How bold brands create belonging by being clear about who they are — and who they’re not for
Key takeaway
This episode is a reminder that great marketing doesn’t come from playing it safe. It comes from knowing what you stand for, saying it clearly, and building something people genuinely want to belong to.
Memorable theme from the episode
The best marketing is authentic and a little divisive.
Not because controversy is the goal but because clarity is. When you stop trying to win everyone over, you make it much easier for the right people to find you, trust you and champion what you do.
Links mentioned
How To Start A Cult | Build A Cult Brand | Home
https://howtostartacult.co.uk/
Bad Boy Running | Podcast and Community
https://badboyrunning.com/
The conversation also digs into Jody’s refreshing view of marketing: that the most effective marketing is not bland, polished or designed to please everyone. It works best when it’s authentic, clear in what it stands for, and divisive enough to attract the right people while putting off the wrong ones. In Jody’s world, trying to appeal to everyone is usually the fastest route to being ignored.
David and Jody explore how Bad Boy Running grew by embracing humour, in-jokes, honesty and a clear set of shared beliefs — proving that strong communities are built less on constant content and more on consistency, identity and connection.
What you’ll hear in this episode
- How Jody moved from journalism into brand strategy and challenger-brand messaging
- The origins of Bad Boy Running and why its rough-around-the-edges style helped it stand out
- Why strong positioning matters more than trying to please everyone
- How authenticity and a willingness to be polarising can make marketing far more effective
- What most brands get wrong about community building
- The story behind Jody’s book launch and the unexpected Cliff Richard-inspired strategy behind it
- Why consistency builds trust more than polished perfection ever will
- How bold brands create belonging by being clear about who they are — and who they’re not for
Key takeaway
This episode is a reminder that great marketing doesn’t come from playing it safe. It comes from knowing what you stand for, saying it clearly, and building something people genuinely want to belong to.
Memorable theme from the episode
The best marketing is authentic and a little divisive.
Not because controversy is the goal but because clarity is. When you stop trying to win everyone over, you make it much easier for the right people to find you, trust you and champion what you do.
Links mentioned
- How to Start a Cult
- Bad Boy Running
- Jody’s resources and framework via his website