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"Mindfulness" - Deborah Hawkins
I honestly don't know if anyone will ever value and enjoy these types of conversations as much as I do. Maybe all the questioning, probing, and philosophical thinking is not useful and I am part of a very small minority of people who see any merit in it. But for me, this was a truly beautiful conversation that embodies exactly why I do this show. My guest, Deborah, and I spent 25-30 minutes during the second half of the show trying to figure out how to tell if we want out of life (what makes us feel good/happy) is actually something we should feel good about. If that makes your head hurt, I get it, but I really think you should walk with us on this.
Think about it. Think about something that makes you feel good; why does it make you feel good? Is it because at your core essence of who you are, you value that thing? Or is it because you had some set of lived experiences that conditioned you in a way that made it feel good? Could you ever tell which of those it is? Does it matter? If it doesn't matter, then how do we ever know who we really are and what we really value?
Let me step back for a moment, to give some context. Deborah is an author (The Best Of No Small Thing — Mindful Meditations and Practice Gratitude: Transform Your Life —Making the Uplifting Experience of Gratitude Intentional), speaker, and runs online groups around purpose and gratitude. Deborah's most important value was "mindfulness" and by that she means a very literal mindfulness that focuses on being aware and conscious of how things make you feel throughout your life. She believes focusing on that allows us to unlock more experiences where we can live our values and feel good. To her, life is about observation, trial, error, and improving.
It is in this vein that we spent time discussing and debating how you do this most effectively. If we need to constantly be observing and understanding ourselves, how far do we take that? How do we ever know if what we learned is the true "us?" I really can't do the full conversation justice in a write up, but a huge thanks to Deborah for sharing her perspective and having such an insightful and lively discussion with me.
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I honestly don't know if anyone will ever value and enjoy these types of conversations as much as I do. Maybe all the questioning, probing, and philosophical thinking is not useful and I am part of a very small minority of people who see any merit in it. But for me, this was a truly beautiful conversation that embodies exactly why I do this show. My guest, Deborah, and I spent 25-30 minutes during the second half of the show trying to figure out how to tell if we want out of life (what makes us feel good/happy) is actually something we should feel good about. If that makes your head hurt, I get it, but I really think you should walk with us on this.
Think about it. Think about something that makes you feel good; why does it make you feel good? Is it because at your core essence of who you are, you value that thing? Or is it because you had some set of lived experiences that conditioned you in a way that made it feel good? Could you ever tell which of those it is? Does it matter? If it doesn't matter, then how do we ever know who we really are and what we really value?
Let me step back for a moment, to give some context. Deborah is an author (The Best Of No Small Thing — Mindful Meditations and Practice Gratitude: Transform Your Life —Making the Uplifting Experience of Gratitude Intentional), speaker, and runs online groups around purpose and gratitude. Deborah's most important value was "mindfulness" and by that she means a very literal mindfulness that focuses on being aware and conscious of how things make you feel throughout your life. She believes focusing on that allows us to unlock more experiences where we can live our values and feel good. To her, life is about observation, trial, error, and improving.
It is in this vein that we spent time discussing and debating how you do this most effectively. If we need to constantly be observing and understanding ourselves, how far do we take that? How do we ever know if what we learned is the true "us?" I really can't do the full conversation justice in a write up, but a huge thanks to Deborah for sharing her perspective and having such an insightful and lively discussion with me.