In this special mini episode, Greg Morris and Gary P. Jenkins take a moment to honor the life and legacy of Fred Shack, the longtime CEO of Urban Pathways and a tireless advocate for New Yorkers experiencing homelessness.

Fred’s impact on the city—and on the people and colleagues who worked alongside him—was profound. Known for his unwavering commitment, sharp insight, and deep compassion, he helped shape a housing-first approach that changed lives across New York City.

This conversation reflects on Fred’s leadership, his lasting influence on the sector, and the responsibility to carry his work forward.