Ben, Travis and Will are joined by mentor Danny Morris once again. This time they discuss the importance of ministering to people through grief. Danny was the pulpit minister at the congregation that Tabitha Gean attended when she was killed in an automobile accident driving home after school. Tabitha was Ben's girlfriend at the time of her passing. This event changed both of their lives and also caused both to lift one another up. Danny speaks to the void that was left in his life. Everyone on the episode shares about how they handle grief as ministers. All mention that we struggle with some of life's questions regarding suffering and grief. Danny speaks to being there for the family. Travis discusses how ministers are not mind readers but want to serve you in the best possible way. They stress the importance of your presence during grief but the pressure to say something. Ben challenges us to see what is behind the tough words those who are hurting may say in their time of loss. Danny wraps up the episode with a funny story of embarassing Ben in front of a van full of people.

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