In this episode of Ministry Matters That Matter, Dr. Kirk Brothers takes us from the historic walls of Fort San Lorenzo in Panama to a future ministers camp in Ecuador to draw a vital lesson for ministers and church leaders: know when to step in—and when to stay out.

Using powerful biblical examples like Josiah’s fatal battle and Paul’s plea to help Euodia and Syntyche, Dr. Brothers shares wise, practical advice on ministering through conflict without becoming collateral damage. He explains concepts like triangulation and the "identified patient," urging leaders to navigate church problems with discernment and spiritual clarity.

Whether you're a preacher, elder, counselor, or just someone trying to be a peacemaker in your congregation, this episode will help you learn how to help others without being pulled into the crossfire.

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⏱️ Chapters:

00:00 – Introduction at Fort San Lorenzo, Panama

00:36 – The strategic design of the fort and its spiritual lesson

01:20 – Ministry insight: How people draw you into conflict

02:20 – Navigating past congregational issues wisely

03:06 – Transition to Ecuador: Future ministers camp

04:00 – Biblical example #1: Paul’s plea in Philippians 4

04:56 – Biblical example #2: Josiah’s fatal mistake (2 Chronicles 35)

06:20 – Avoiding unnecessary battles in ministry

07:00 – The danger of being labeled the "identified patient"

07:30 – Understanding triangulation in counseling

08:30 – Final encouragement: Be cautious but keep helping

08:58 – Closing thoughts: Ministry matters because the Master matters

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