If you’ve ever tried to design something, you’ll know that learning is a slow process. It’s messy, and it takes time. In this episode, we meet science communicator Miriam Harte and graphic designer Robert Farrelly—who guides Miriam through the brainstorming stage of the graphic design process, using the visual identity for this very podcast as a starting point. After the lesson, Jane and Shane chat about different aspects of design education, and what it can teach us about the learning process.

Hosted by Shane Bergin | Jane Chadwick

Featuring Miriam Harte | Robert Farrelly

Produced by ⁠⁠Shaun & Maurice⁠⁠

Music by Chris Zabriskie

Supported by Science Foundation Ireland