On this episode of The Grapevine,  Dr Michael Jensen, Senior Research Fellow at the University of Canberra debunks 5G conspiracies and explains their impact on public policy that his article in The Conversation explores in detail. Plus Associate Professor and Senior Lecturer in Urban Planning at Melbourne University, Dave Nichols, gets on the line with Kulja and Dylan to breakdown the ‘downside of density’ in metropolitan areas during a pandemic that was illustrated during the recent tower lockdowns. And as the Government sets JobSeeker payments to drop back below the poverty line from August, Executive Director of Per Capita, Emma Dawson, explains the impact of the announced changes to vulnerable Australians at a time when there aren’t enough jobs available in the market to make up the difference.