On this episode we talk about missing or dead hikers in Russia and on the Appalachian Trail. It may get gruesome—a bit of mystery with unproven theories. Cattle mutilations were brought up in comparison to the injuries sustained by the Russian hikers. 

We were recording outside at Grayhaven Winery so you'll hear background noise like other customers, horses, dogs, fire crackling, wind, and one of the wine stewards coming to check on us.  The joys of recording on-site and outside

We were enjoying Grayhaven's mulled wine and a charcuterie board. Both are delicious.