Personality tests are everywhere in the workplace—but are they actually helping leaders lead? In this episode, we dig into why personality-based approaches often fall short and why behavior—not labels—is what really drives performance. We talk candidly about our own leadership styles and reflect on experiences with leaders we’ve worked under—the good, the bad, and the lessons that stuck. Using an ABA lens, we explore how focusing on observable behavior can lead to clearer expectations, better feedback, and stronger teams. Stop guessing who people are—start observing what they do.