For this in-person lunch in a restaurant recorded podcast, I'm joined by Jared Kuroiwa. We discuss AR/VR glasses, ARM PCs, and some recent keyboards (Logitech in both our cases) we've been using. Note that there is a complete separate discussion and video recorded demonstration of Jared's Brilliant Labs Frames and Xreal Air 2 Ultra AR glasses. This discussion is available on YouTube and linked on the MobileViews blog.