Todd Ogasawara and Jon Westfall are joined by frequent guest panelist Sven Johannsen for this podcast. They discuss whether consumers (like them) will pay for "pro" LLM/GenAI tools. They also discuss the Zeiss Holocam that turns any glass window into a camera. Sven highlighted a report about Calendar Spam. They spend most of the rest of the podcast discussing water bottles and bags for techies.