For episode 230, brewer Tommy Miller of Rollertown Beerworks is back on the podcast to talk about the brewery's expansion in Frisco, Texas, (slated to open in October 2025) and share his thoughts about the IPA beer style. In fact, he was brewing at Rollertown while talking with us.

Given Miller's background in the Dallas brewing scene (Deep Ellum, Noble Rey Brewing), we discuss the IBU wars of the early 2000s and 10s, the slow acceptance of New England / Hazy IPA in Texas, and his ideas on the future of IPA. On the beats front this week, we talk about Barry Can't Swim, Black Milk, and Hashi Senjoo. Collin Zreet brings history and pairing ideas for English Bitter-style beers in the Tasting Notes segment.

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