Michael and Mark talk to author and criminal barrister Mohsin Zaidi about collars, conversion therapy and dancing for Dizzee.

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Follow menkind on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram @menkindpodcast and Mohsin @mohsinzaidi_ldn. Mohsin's book "A Dutiful Boy" is out in paperback this week, 10th June.

Recorded and edited by Siren Turner and Lianne Coop at Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.

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