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Moldavia says she has "nine bloods in her." A black bigot who believes in radical multi-culturalism, supports Drumpf, and runs a 'foundation' which works to inspire Americans to learn more languages and cultures, Moldavia herself can say something in over 3,000 languages.

I unpack my encounter with her, which I am calling "the most frustrating interview I've ever conducted" with a friend of mine, Stephen Williams. Stephen tells me a little bit about his experience growing up in the USA as an African American and raising two mixed-race sons. We discuss how to help people 

Check out Moldavia's foundation, SAPAWLAC's Youtube page here.