This episode features Molly Mary O'Brien of And Introducing and Infinite Cast. We start off with an extended riff on Sad Girls – Phoebe Bridgers, Fiona Apple, Lana Del Rey, Angel Olsen, Mitski – before veering off into a tangent about band merch that includes discussion of Jenny Lewis, Nine Inch Nails, Vampire Weekend, Pom Pom Club, and...the Hamburger Helper mascot. It's a fun convo!