Monday 4th June 2018

Tina Fawcett speaks to Vivien Langford from Oxford. She was involved in a UK Government report into the feasibility of Personal carbon rations. She wrote Suicidal Planet and thinks that by focusing on our personal carbon budget more people would engage realistically with the problem of global warming. The British decided that this was an idea before its time but Australians with a carbon footprint of 23 tonnes compared to the average European with 8 should not shy away from this detailed and sensible discussion. It is NOT easy listening.

George Monbiot author of HEAT and a lifetime of articles about climate change and the environment which we are failing to treasure, has written a new book OUT OF THE WRECKAGE.

He talks about his struggle to get the media to take climate change seriously. He feels piecemeal solutions like carbon rations will not work until we have a less reactive,more propositional approach. He says our policies are grown hydroponically and are not embedded in the soil of real values. We are listening out for a restorative narrative that resonates with our concerns. It was difficult to get good audio quality through our skype connection and he was very patient. It will be worth your while to be patient too as you listen to this profound discussion.