Finally back from a month-long hiatus, Lisa and Ted get into their different preferences around chaos and order. They open with a ribald riff on swearing unicorns (really, see 2:34) and then explain what happened with the delay between podcast episodes (5:45). Together, Ted and Lisa try to determine what makes for a healthy amount of chaos (13:28) and wonder if they’re as fixed in their preferences as they might have led us all to believe (23:52). They explore how stillness can help with chaos (38:21) wonder whether schedules make for effective teaching (41:03). Lisa recalls an inspirational character from her childhood (47:17) and eventually they both return to the value of beginner’s mind (54:46). Jump into the chaos with them both—see what wisdom you can find!

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