If you’re looking for a holiday dessert, how about a taste of humble pie?

It’s Episode #88, and Ted and Lisa are thinking about all the ways they just don’t know. After a fun prompt from Ted and a few rounds of syllable-at-a-time-three-things (2:36), Ted shares what led him to this episode’s topic (9:12). Lisa recognizes the way she’s been feeling humbled by social justice issues and Ted acknowledges the same in the face of wise young people (12:19). Lisa (re-)considers what makes for good improv and Ted mentions “I” language (17:34) before the pair explores mindfulness and improv as practices in humility (22:05). The two consider how boldness and humility can play together (25:48), how science has a history of faulty certainty (28:15), and how admitting “I could be wrong” has a powerful attraction (32:25). Ted wonders about the fading allure of ambition for greatness (33:22) and Lisa recognizes that her upcoming parenting role is likely to bring new levels of not-knowing, self-sacrifice, and being ready to learn (45:56). We had a few issues with our intro recording so don’t be too surprised when it’s just Ted to start—Lisa reliably gets in on the fun too! A humble happy holidays to all!

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And lastly, if you’re needing a bit of Monster-Baby-inspired reading or you’re looking for a perfect holiday gift, slide on over to www.playfulmindfulness.info to pick up a copy of Ted’s book Playful Mindfulness: a joyful journey to everyday confidence, calm, and connection. (Ted will surely sign it for you if you like!)