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  • What is the moral value of disgust?

    The decision of OnlyFans and Instagram to ban the porn star Bonnie Blue, who engaged in sequential sex with more than a thousand men in 12 hours, indicates the strength of the backlash of disapproval to the stunt. The reaction of many people has been what the psychologist Jonathan Haidt calls 'moral bafflement', the idea that most of us instinctively condemn some behaviours without being able to say why they are wrong. Western morality says, “don’t hurt other people”, but Bonnie Blue arguably hurt nobody. This was understood to be safe sex between consenting adults (although the psychological or social impact is harder to determine). Others might form their judgments based on values within sacred texts, but religion is no longer the moral and cultural force it once was.

    How much attention should we pay to our knee-jerk sense of right and wrong when judging the actions of other people? Evolutionary psychologists describe how the emotion of disgust was a survival mechanism against the spread of disease. Thus, ritual purity, enforced by religious edict, was vital for the moral and spiritual life of our ancestors. But does disgust still carry moral weight in a modern, secular, and technologically advanced society, or is it merely an evolutionary hangover?

    Just because we think something is wrong, how do we know that it is? And do we have the right, as a society, to translate our instinctive disapproval into prohibition? What is the moral value of disgust?

    Chair: Michal Buerk

    Panellists: Ash Sarkar, Tim Stanley, Anne McElvoy and Matthew Taylor.

    Witnesses: Stacey Clare, Julie Bindel, Jussi Suikkanen, John Haldane.

    Producer: Dan Tierney

    57 min
  • Is it time to ditch historical figures as heroes?

    The Bank of England has been accused of being the 'Bank of Wokeness' after proposing to cut historical figures from banknotes. Images of Winston Churchill, Jane Austen and Alan Turing could be replaced by images of themes such as nature, innovation, or key events in history. It raises the possibility of British birds, bridges, or bangers and mash featuring on the next series of £5, £10, £20 and £50 notes and would take us down the route favoured by the Euro which feature many an imaginary structure or window. But what do we lose when we potentially erase these historical figures from a place in our pocket? Are they problematic figures who are essentially divisive? Or are we discarding important figures who achieved greatness and still embody moral values? Is the concept of heroism one we need to reject altogether or do stories of human endeavour still represent the best way to promote culture and identity?

    PANEL: Anne McElvoy, Ash Sarkar, Matthew Taylor, Tim Stanley

    WITNESSES:

    Paul Lay, Historian

    Maddy Fry, Writer and Journalist
    Professor Simon Goldhill, Historian
    Professor Ellis Cashmore

    CHAIR Michael Buerk

    PRODUCER: Catherine Murray
    ASST PRODUCER: PETER EVERETT
    PRODUCTION CO-ORDINATOR: Pete Liggins
    EDITOR: Tim Pemberton

    57 min
  • Is social cohesion a moral good? And can governments influence it?

    Are we at risk of becoming “an island of strangers”? The Prime Minister, backtracking on many fronts, has apologised for the phrase - he says he hadn’t read it properly before he said it – but he’s backed a grand-sounding Independent Commission that’s now at work to fix a society it says is a “tinderbox of division”.

    Is it? Social attitude surveys suggest we’re one of the most tolerant countries on earth.
    What do we mean by social cohesion? Is it something wider than community cohesion? What about the class divisions?
    Is it important for us all to mix with each or a natural human instinct to cleave to those who are like you?
    Is social cohesion a moral good in itself? And is ‘getting on with each other’ something that can be achieved by government fiat?

    PANELLISTS: INAYA FOLARIN-IMAN, LORD JONATHAN SUMPTION, PROF MONA SIDDIQUI, SONIA SODHA

    WITNESSES: MATTHEW SYED, Journalist
    SIMON LEVINE from ODI, a global affairs think tank
    JULIE SIDDIQI, Community relations consultant
    RAVI GURUMURTHY, CEO of NESTA, the UK innovation foundation for social good
    Chaired by Michael Buerk

    PRODUCER: Catherine Murray

    ASST PRODUCER: Peter Everett
    EDITOR: Tim Pemberton

    57 min
  • Is Privacy an outdated concept or a moral right?

    ID cards are back on the political agenda, digital this time, being pushed by an influential group of Labour MPs, and – surveys suggest – public opinion, which is increasingly worried about illegal immigration and benefit fraud. Time was, when privacy was a free-born Briton’s birthright and a policeman asking for your papers anathema, the mark of foreign dictatorships. We live in a different world now where even your household gadgets are capable of gathering information on you. Is privacy out of date, or a moral good that’s the basis of freedom? Can we no longer tell the state – or Big Tech – to mind their own business, and does it matter?

    WITNESSES:

    Kirsty Innes, Director of Technology at Labour Together
    Rebecca Vincent, Interim director of Big Brother Watch
    Dr Hazem Zohny, University of Oxford
    Tiffany Jenkins, Cultural Historian

    PANELLISTS:

    Rev Dr Giles Fraser
    Anne McElvoy
    Lord Jonathan Sumption
    Matthew Taylor

    Chaired by Michael Buerk

    Producer: Catherine Murray
    Assistant Producer: Peter Everett
    Editor: Tim Pemberton

    57 min
  • What is the ethical purpose of the NHS?

    The National Health Service is at a crossroads. Systemic pressures are lengthening hospital waiting times. Resources are finite. That’s why the government is coming up with a 10 year plan to make the NHS ‘fit for purpose’. But what is the ethical purpose of the NHS?

    The ethical ambition has always been that everyone, regardless of their background, should have equal access to healthcare. It’s seen as a moral triumph of civilization and political suicide to meddle with it.
    But when we look at the statistics about the effectiveness of care alongside other comparative countries – the cancer survival rates, premature deaths from cardiovascular disease, and the disparities of life-expectancy according to UK postcode – is it time to question this foundational principle? This is not simply a matter of which funding model works best. It is fundamentally ethical.
    For example, rather than focussing on equality of access to healthcare, should the goal instead be the equality of health outcomes across society? In other words, should we prioritise care for the most disadvantaged patients? Or would doing so be addressing a symptom and not the cause of deeper intersecting inequalities?
    Practically, it’s a question of who gets treated first. Philosophically, it’s a collision between competing notions of equality and fairness. Should we care more about equality of outcome – being equally healthy – or equality of access – treating everyone the same? What is the ethical purpose of the NHS?

    Michael Buerk chairs a special debate at the Nuffield Trust Summit 2025.

    Producer: Dan Tierney

    Editor: Tim Pemberton

    Panel:

    Mona Siddiqui
    Tim Stanley
    Matthew Taylor
    Inaya Folarin-Iman

    Witnesses:

    Kiran Patel
    Sheena Asthana
    Tony Milligan
    Jamie Whyte

    57 min
  • Was Israel right to launch strikes on Iran?

    Self-defence, as a justification for war, is much more difficult to argue if you strike the first blow. The Israelis say their devastating pre-emptive strike on Iran is a special, truly existential, case. A regime, long committed to their destruction was, according to Israel, within weeks of developing nuclear weapons, just one of which could effectively wipe out their state and most of its citizens.

    How far does that justify the abandonment of diplomacy, the targeting of leaders, the collateral damage and death? And, by the way, why is it ok for some countries to have The Bomb- and not others?

    Witnesses:

    Sir Richard Dalton, Jake Wallis Simons, Prof Mary Kaldor, Prof Ali Ansari

    Panellists:

    Carmody Grey, Giles Fraser, Inaya Folarin-Iman , Mona Siddiqui

    Presenter: Michael Buerk

    Producer: Catherine Murray
    Assistant Producer: Peter Everett
    Editor: Tim Pemberton

    57 min
  • Is having children a moral duty?

    There’s been a fair amount of focus on the concept of pronatalism recently and debate over whether it is left or right wing for governments to introduce policies that encourage women to have more babies. Others argue that the matter is too big to be consumed by the culture wars.

    This week, the United Nations Population Fund issued its strongest statement yet on fertility decline, warning that hundreds of millions of people are not able to have the number of children they want, citing the prohibitive cost of parenthood and the lack of a suitable partner as some of the reasons affecting birth rates across the world.

    For a country in the developed world to increase or maintain its population, it needs a birth rate of 2.1 children per woman on average. Last year in the UK, it fell to 1.4. Like many developed nations, women are having fewer babies, which poses economic problems as countries face the impact of both aging and declining populations, and a smaller workforce in relation to the number of pensioners.

    Why are people in richer nations choosing to have fewer babies? Has parenthood had a bad press? Is it too expensive to have kids or do people just wait too long to tick off life goals before they realise their fertility window has closed?

    And is it manipulative for governments to encourage women to have more children? For some, a low birth rate is the sign of a civilised society where women have reproductive autonomy. Is there a moral duty to have children?

    PRESENTER Michael Buerk

    PANELLISTS Ash Sarkar, Giles Fraser, Mona Siddiqui, James Orr
    GUESTS Caroline Farrow, Prof Anna Rotkirch, Prof Lisa Schipper, Sarah Ditum
    PRODUCER Catherine Murray
    ASSISTANT PRODUCER Peter Everett
    EDITOR Tim Pemberton

    57 min
  • AI: Promise or Peril ? Recorded at the Hay Festival

    Almost the first thing the newly chosen Pope Leo XIV did was to warn of the dangers of Artificial intelligence, of technological advance outstripping human wisdom. AI promises unapparelled efficiency, streamlined lives, complex problems solved in milliseconds. But will it make humans redundant literally and metaphorically? Will it hijack creativity? Will it imprison us in our prejudices? Will it destroy the concept of objective truth? AI: Promise or Peril? was recorded at The Hay Literary Festival

    Witnesses:

    Dr Kaitlyn Regehr, author of Smartphone Nation: Why We're All Addicted to Our Screens and What You and Your Family Can Do About It
    Marcus Du Sautoy, author, mathematician and Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford,
    Dorian Lynskey
    Sir Nigel Shadbolt, longterm researcher of AI, Professor in Computer Science at Oxford University and government advisor.

    Panellists:

    Anne McElvoy
    James Orr
    Mona Siddiqui
    Matthew Taylor
    Presenter: Michael Buerk

    Producers: Catherine Murray & Peter Everett

    Production Co-ordinators: Brigid Harrison-Draper &Sam Nixon
    Thanks to Lucy Newman and the whole team at Hay.

    58 min
  • Is free trade a moral good?

    President Trump has imposed tariffs on all America’s trade; China has hit back; other nations, including our own, are working out how to cope with what Sir Keir Starmer has called a “new world” governed by “deals and alliances” rather than rules. In this crisis, we have turned to the economists, who argue about percentages. But shouldn't we be asking – what is the moral thing to do?

    Trump’s ‘MAGA’ project always said it wanted tariff barriers to revive US industry and rebalance world trade; the American voters chose that strong medicine; now they – and the rest of the world – must swallow it. The first question is not whether it will work; time will tell. The first question is: given the consequences for the whole world, does Trump have a moral right to exercise that mandate?

    The second question is the one that confronts Britain, and all the other nations that have been reliant (perhaps too reliant) on trade and co-operation with America. It is not about numbers but about morality. The three most influential economic philosophers in history – Adam Smith, Karl Marx and J.M.Keynes – reached different conclusions about it.

    Is free trade a moral good?

    Chair: Michael Buerk

    Producers: Peter Everett and Dan Tierney
    Editor: Tim Pemberton

    Panel:

    Anne McElvoy
    Ash Sarkar
    Matthew Taylor
    James Orr

    Witnesses:

    Mariana Mazzucato
    Hamish McRae
    Maxwell Marlow
    Sir Dieter Helm

    57 min
  • What's wrong with men?

    The Netflix drama ‘Adolescence’ has prompted a national conversation about a ‘crisis of masculinity’. In a society where gender roles are changing, progressive attitudes are in tension with traditional ideas about male behaviour.

    Studies suggest Gen Z men and women are more divided than those of any other generation on questions about feminism, gender roles and women’s rights. Meanwhile, teachers highlight the alarming prevalence of misogyny in schools, influencers can be influential than parents, and social media algorithms amplify misogynistic content to teens. This is happening at the same time as rising rates of depression, anxiety, and a higher likelihood of suicide among young men.

    Traditional ideas about ‘manliness’ - strength, dominance, independence, and emotional stoicism - are seen in many contexts as inappropriate and harmful – both to men and women. While the feminist movement and women’s advances in education and the workplace, for example, are a mark of social progress, some believe they have also challenged men’s sense of purpose in a way that has perhaps been overlooked. Others think this analysis is dangerous because it doesn’t apply to all men, it sets up men's mental health and wellbeing in opposition to the opportunities of women, and denies some men the agency to make the right choices. At the same time, it can be uncomfortable to discuss how men and women are different – physically and psychologically – and how they might have different and complementary roles.

    Do we need to re-define or reclaim masculinity? What’s wrong with men?

    Chair: Michael Buerk

    Producer: Dan Tierney
    Assistant Producer: Peter Everett
    Editor: Tim Pemberton

    Panel:

    Ash Sarkar
    Tim Stanley
    Matthew Taylor
    Anne McElvoy

    Witnesses:

    Clare Ford
    Brendan O'Neill
    James Bloodworth
    John Amaechi

    57 min

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