More or Less with Jess

Gayle joins More or Less for an honest conversation about life after abcdefu became a global hit and the journey to her debut album, Observing Chaos.

Grammy-nominated at just 18, Gayle then spent years on the road opening for some of music’s biggest names yet found herself disconnected from who she was beyond the music. As the pressure grew, so did a deep fear of living up to her own potential.

We dive into how OCD has shaped her inner world and how therapy has played a role in making sense of it. By finding creative freedom in the chaos (no pun intended), she has learned to embrace the messiness of growing up.

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Platinum singer-songwriter Rozes (aka Liz!) opens up about music, motherhood, grief, and finding your way back to yourself. At just 22 years old, Rozes gained global fame in 2015 from her hit 'Roses' with The Chainsmokers.

Entering this new era, Rozes is now fully independent and defining success on her own terms. She opens up about becoming a mom, being diagnosed with breast cancer shortly after her daughter’s first birthday and why she chose to share her journey publicly online.

Now with no evidence of disease, ROZES is focused on this next chapter: making music she loves and letting go of outside validation.

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Glam rock powerhouse Spencer Sutherland brings his humor and heart for a chaotically honest (in the best way!) conversation about finding your voice & owning who you are.

Spencer reflects on growing up in Ohio, navigating body image struggles and bullying as a teenager, and the lessons he learned from competing on The X Factor UK.

He opens up about the pressure to fit the pop star mold and how his latest music marks the most honest chapter of his career.

This episode is a reminder that the best things happen when you stop chasing who you think you should be.... and start embracing the person you've always been!

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Independent artist Earth to Eve joins the show for an honest conversation about mental health, creativity, and building a passionate community that helps people feel less alone.

Fresh off the release of her debut album, Oversharing on the Internet, Earth to Eve shares the realities of being a DIY musician, defining success beyond streams and followers but by the people it impacts.

She opens up about her lived experiences with depression and chronic illness, and how songwriting became both a creative outlet and a lifeline.

Together, we dive into the future of music in the age of AI, political advocacy through art, and what it means to stay grounded in an increasingly noisy world.

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Alana Springsteen joins Jess following the release of her new album, I Hope This Helps, for a candid conversation about healing, self-discovery, and learning to choose yourself.

Growing up in a faith-based household, Alana reflects on her evolving relationship with spirituality and what it was like becoming the first person in her family to seek therapy. She opens up about anxiety and how EMDR helped her process childhood experiences that continue to shape her life today.

Together, they dive into vulnerability, family expectations, and the courage it takes to build a life that feels authentic.

This one is for anyone learning to trust their inner voice and create a life that feels true to who they are, more or less.

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This week, we’re down in Nashville with The Maine’s John O'Callaghan and Pat Kirch talking about what it’s really been like growing up in a band for almost 20 years, more or less.

From touring as dads to building the kind of community that keeps fans coming back generation after generation (shout-out 8123 family), this episode is all about belonging and connection.

Pat and John open up about making their 10th album, Joy Next Door, a record that pushed them to slow down in new ways. This conversation is a reminder that joy often lives in the little moments, even right next door.

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Daisy Grenade's Keaton + Dani join us for a conversation on friendship, theater roots, and building a band from a backyard show in Queens to their first-ever, upcoming headline tour.

We dive into life on the road, the intensity of touring, and how they protect their mental health through rest and routine. Keaton also opens up about her sobriety journey and lessons learned along the way.

This one's all about growth, intention, and trying to create art with presence and a sense of purpose.

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Ahead of his debut album, Orchid, Matt Hansen joins More or Less with Jess for a vulnerable conversation.

After a viral TikTok cover of “Godspeed” changed his life overnight,  ⁨@matthansen⁩  has gone on to sell out tours across three continents, reach over 6M monthly Spotify listeners, and build his career fully on his own terms as an independent artist. In this episode, Matt opens up about sustaining success in today's music industry while navigating being both CEO and artist.

We dive into the catharsis of songwriting and how learning to let go has shaped his sense of self. This conversation is a reminder of how embracing discomfort can lead to the most growth.

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The last time Em Beihold was on More or Less, her breakout single Numb Little Bug was everywhere. Since then, life has changed and she’s no longer “a little bit tired of life.”

Back with her debut album Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter, Em opens up about depression, jealousy, and the pressure to recreate viral success. She shares her experiences with outpatient therapy, medication, and navigating identity as a 'pop girl'.

As our first returning guest, Em and Jess discuss growth, healing, and what it really means to be a “mental health advocate."

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Travie McCoy of Gym Class Heroes joins Jess for an incredibly candid conversation on moving from the chaos of fame to living fully in simplicity.

The frontman reflects on intense isolation, periods of self-medicating, and how addiction shaped his twenties.

Best known for hits like Cupid’s Chokehold and Billionaire, Travie spills the story behind the name Gym Class Heroes and reminisces about iconic moments on Warped Tour and Jingle Ball.

Disclaimer: This episode reflects personal experiences with substance use and addiction and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult a qualified healthcare professional.

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