Birgitta is back, and this time she is joined by jazz musician,  educator, and filmmaker Mimi Jones. They explore the history, present, and future of jazz music set to the soundtrack of Mimi Jones' Black Madonna Project live in concert.

More Than Rhythm: A Black Music Series is presented by the Baker & Baker Foundation. This program has been made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom. This program is supported by Richland County Government.

The Binder Podcast is a production of the Columbia Museum of Art. Edited and recorded by Drew Baron.