In the second episode of this series on Thomas More's Utopia, Hythloday continues his discourse. We'll hear more about the death penalty, Renaissance humanism, how kings who are selfish stupidly act against their own interests, the fictional land of the Polylerits, and a socially awkward exchange between a court jester and a monk.

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Written and produced by Anna Roberts

Burning palm tree artwork by Perry Vasquez

Intro music by Elliot Middleton