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Mormonism LIVE: 073: Lying For The Lord
In this week’s episode, Bill and RFM take a look at instances in Mormon History where LDS Leadership seem to be giving a stamp of approval to Leaders and Members to be dishonest, to lie, and to deceive. Once we understand the instruction and permissions given to be dishonest we can going forward see their deceptions and dishonesty within greater context.
RESOURCES:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty?lang=eng
http://www.mormonthink.com/files/lying-for-lord-ken-clark.pdf
http://www.mormonthink.com/lying.htm
The Hiding of Church History
http://packham.n4m.org/lying.htm
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lying%20for%20the%20lord
Lying for the Lord: A Grassroots Tale
https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=clarkmemorandum#page=15
The Hiding of Church History
http://www.mormonismi.net/pdf/lying_for_the_lord.pdf
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/01/truth-and-more?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teaching-seminary-preservice-readings-religion-370-471-and-475/the-mantle-is-far-far-greater-than-the-intellect?lang=eng
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/issues/V31N03.pdf
The Hiding of Church History
Truth in Church History: Excerpts from the Religious Educator’s Q&A with Elder Steven Snow
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-oaks-interview-transcript-from-pbs-documentary
God’s Hand in Our Nation’s History
https://books.google.com/books?id=ytIbMwyenKYC&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=%22training+I+have+had+from+those+over+me%22+mathias+cowley&source=bl&ots=Oodm2kHqQz&sig=ACfU3U2zLyIJRpeiKsd4cTuLZsC9dq7rng&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja9dr3jLL3AhUGJkQIHXHAChIQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=%22training%20I%20have%20had%20from%20those%20over%20me%22%20mathias%20cowley&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=ytIbMwyenKYC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=%22We+have+always+been+taught+that+when+the+brethren+were+in+a+tight+place+that+it+would+not+be+amiss+to+lie+to+help+them+out%22+mathias+cowley&source=bl&ots=Oodm2kIiRF&sig=ACfU3U2xlBEmLonbWVr3InNbDCYWS402_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjhwuzejbL3AhX1JkQIHQqgB6YQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=%22We%20have%20always%20been%20taught%20that%20when%20the%20brethren%20were%20in%20a%20tight%20place%20that%20it%20would%20not%20be%20amiss%20to%20lie%20to%20help%20them%20out%22%20mathias%20cowley&f=false
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1983/01/the-candle-of-the-lord?lang=eng
https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/Gospel-Teachings-About-Lying.pdf
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty?lang=eng
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By Bill Reel and Radio Free MormonIn this week’s episode, Bill and RFM take a look at instances in Mormon History where LDS Leadership seem to be giving a stamp of approval to Leaders and Members to be dishonest, to lie, and to deceive. Once we understand the instruction and permissions given to be dishonest we can going forward see their deceptions and dishonesty within greater context.
RESOURCES:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty?lang=eng
http://www.mormonthink.com/files/lying-for-lord-ken-clark.pdf
http://www.mormonthink.com/lying.htm
The Hiding of Church History
http://packham.n4m.org/lying.htm
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lying%20for%20the%20lord
Lying for the Lord: A Grassroots Tale
https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=clarkmemorandum#page=15
The Hiding of Church History
http://www.mormonismi.net/pdf/lying_for_the_lord.pdf
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/01/truth-and-more?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teaching-seminary-preservice-readings-religion-370-471-and-475/the-mantle-is-far-far-greater-than-the-intellect?lang=eng
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/issues/V31N03.pdf
The Hiding of Church History
Truth in Church History: Excerpts from the Religious Educator’s Q&A with Elder Steven Snow
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-oaks-interview-transcript-from-pbs-documentary
God’s Hand in Our Nation’s History
https://books.google.com/books?id=ytIbMwyenKYC&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=%22training+I+have+had+from+those+over+me%22+mathias+cowley&source=bl&ots=Oodm2kHqQz&sig=ACfU3U2zLyIJRpeiKsd4cTuLZsC9dq7rng&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja9dr3jLL3AhUGJkQIHXHAChIQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=%22training%20I%20have%20had%20from%20those%20over%20me%22%20mathias%20cowley&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=ytIbMwyenKYC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=%22We+have+always+been+taught+that+when+the+brethren+were+in+a+tight+place+that+it+would+not+be+amiss+to+lie+to+help+them+out%22+mathias+cowley&source=bl&ots=Oodm2kIiRF&sig=ACfU3U2xlBEmLonbWVr3InNbDCYWS402_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjhwuzejbL3AhX1JkQIHQqgB6YQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=%22We%20have%20always%20been%20taught%20that%20when%20the%20brethren%20were%20in%20a%20tight%20place%20that%20it%20would%20not%20be%20amiss%20to%20lie%20to%20help%20them%20out%22%20mathias%20cowley&f=false
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1983/01/the-candle-of-the-lord?lang=eng
https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/Gospel-Teachings-About-Lying.pdf
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty?lang=eng