Cheryl Durst, CEO of IIDA, joins Doug Shapiro for a wide-ranging, soulful conversation about kinship, optimism, and the power of imperfection. From “word of the year” reflections to mosaics, quilts, and mixtapes, Cheryl explores how unlikely combinations shape meaningful leadership and design. Cheryl shares how energy, memory, and human connection influence the spaces we create and the teams we build. It’s a thoughtful, funny, and deeply human dialogue about why design and life are at their best when they’re a little imperfect.