44,000 Americans die each year from gun-related deaths, the majority suicides. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley sit down with Steven Orr to argue we should legislate psychology, not morality. Steven walks through his own history with guns. They unpack mental health failures, social pressures, media influence, and why education plus community support beat endless policy fights.

Timestamps:

1. (00:00) Debate starts with wrong frame – most deaths are self-inflicted, not crime
2. (00:28) Steven Big Beat joins – lived experience, not talking points
3. (01:44) Guns from childhood – normal upbringing, no tragedy
4. (03:57) Ownership is psychological – protection, identity, not evil
5. (06:05) American violence stats lie – suicides dominate the 44,000
6. (09:26) Mental health collapse kills – treat despair, drop the body count
7. (19:47) Media normalizes rage – constant exposure shapes minds
8. (34:05) Real solutions exist – education and support, not more laws
9. (41:10) Congress avoids blame – they control the levers
10. (42:17) Running costs millions – cash blocks outsiders
11. (43:19) Money buys outcomes – influence is obvious
12. (45:36) Gun rights aren’t eternal – context has shifted
13. (47:27) Prevention starts with care – mental health gaps are lethal
14. (51:54) Ownership future depends – culture decides, not just courts
15. (56:25) Social media breeds shooters – isolation plus outrage
16. (58:56) Surveillance tempts control – privacy cost is massive
17. (01:00:54) Community actually works – connection beats isolation
18. (01:07:04) Rapid-fire cuts deep – no dodging left
19. (01:09:25) Lesson is simple – focus on psychology, save lives

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