In this episode, Natalie Dillion sits down over Zoom with Tamar to discuss her piece on being a working mom to two kids while being a naturally upbeat person, and juggling the ups and downs of it all. Tamar also takes a moment to discuss how Natalie's piece and interview reflect Mother Unleashed's greater goal.

CW: miscarriage, cancer, mental health

Natalie Dillion is mother to two vivacious kids, Dax 4 and Gwenn 1, and she’s also an executive who’s been climbing the corporate ladder since 2012. As a vice president at the public relations agency FINN Partners, she leads its West Coast luxury travel office.

Opening music by TV Girl: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/TV_Girl/Our_First_2_EPs/TV_Girl_-_Our_First_2_EPs_-_06_Lizzy_Come_Back_to_Life/

In this epsiode, Tamar sits down with Devon Dionne to discuss how Devon handles being a doer who is trying (and oftentimes failing) at doing less, and what type of behavior pattern we're passing down to our children. Once again, the episode ends with Devon's live story recording. Be sure to like, subscribe, rate, review!

Contains a few curse words.

Devon's bio: A former dancer, Devon is a gyrotonics instructor and studio owner. Whether she's doing endless crafts and dance parties with her kids, encouraging her friends to live their best lives, or volunteering in the community, Devon always leads from the heart.

Opening music by TV Girl: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/TV_Girl/Our_First_2_EPs/TV_Girl_-_Our_First_2_EPs_-_06_Lizzy_Come_Back_to_Life/

Immigrant, Mom, and Director of Little Stars Preschool in Los Angeles, Darlene Morales sits down to discuss her pain surrounding all things motherhood and how that actually brought her closer to wanting to be a mother, herself. The conversation twists and turns, touching on parenting styles, the importance of multigenerational exposure for children, crafting the lives we desire as mothers, and more. The episode ends with Darlene's live story recording. Be sure to like, subscribe, rate, review!

TW: death, miscarriage

Darlene's bio: Born in El Salvador, Darlene became an Angelino at the age of nine. She is a mom to four: her daughter Sophia, age 20, son Andrew, age 16, son Jeremy, age 7, and sweet Tiffany (the family doggy), age 14. Darlene has dedicated her life to educating the young minds of the next generation. The co-owner of Little Stars Preschool, Darlene spends her days fostering an environment that promotes creativity and community. Www.littlestarsprek.com

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Mom and former nurse Carolyn Chen explains how her faith deepened due to a complication she never expected - giving birth to a child born with a physical anomaly. We discuss her motherhood journey and how she maintains her Christianity in the wilds of Los Angeles. The episode ends with the live recording of Carolyn's story.

Carolyn's bio: After years of working as a community health nurse, Carolyn is embracing this season of getting to be at home with her kids. She remains passionate about encouraging and walking with others through their hard seasons as both a friend and a writer, believing that words have incredible power to speak life and hope. In her free time, she loves singing, supporting women in her faith community, and exploring all the best Asian food LA has to offer.

TW: birth complications, physical birth anomalies

Opening music by TV Girl: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/TV_Girl/Our_First_2_EPs/TV_Girl_-_Our_First_2_EPs_-_06_Lizzy_Come_Back_to_Life/

This week, we hear from Natalie Bosmans. Natalie is a Los Angeles-based line producer who knows how to keep a set running smoothly—and a household of wild toddler boys even smoother (most days). With a background in film and television, she brings calm, creativity, and a deep love for collaboration to every project. When she’s not wrangling talent or or crew, she’s wrangling her two energetic sons, Miles (5) and Miro(4)-often with cars, magnet tiles, or snacks in hand. Natalie attributes the vibrant energy of their life and home to her husband Bennett Miller’s calm demeanor, generous heart, and exceptional taste in music.

Natalie speaks candidly on infertility, IVF, fostering, and adoption. We also make time to discuss back-saving, muscle-relaxing mats and share a few laughs in between the tears. Enjoy!

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Avery and Tamar discuss control and lack thereof when it comes to motherhood, and how her love of spreadsheets helped her but also hindered her as a new mom. At the end, hear Avery's story she shared with a live audience on May 4th, 2025.

Avery's bio: Avery lives in Los Angeles where she is a Policy Director for the Los Angeles Unified School District. She has worked in the field of education for 15 years and is herself a forever learner having earned two master’s degrees (MPP & MA in Special Education) and a doctorate (EdD). Avery most enjoys spending quality time with her husband, David, and her two children, Henry (almost 4) and Maya (2). As a family, they love rooting for the Dodgers and listening to live music.

Opening music by TV Girl: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/TV_Girl/Our_First_2_EPs/TV_Girl_-_Our_First_2_EPs_-_06_Lizzy_Come_Back_to_Life/

Our first ever podcast! Baila and Tamar talk about Baila's story that she wrote for our Mothers Unleashed event where she wrote an incredible letter to her estranged son. The conversation moves into confronting and accepting our own impostor syndrome ("Hello old friend!"), building resilient children by working inside out on ourselves as parents, and of course we get into the toxicity of social media.

Baila's bio:

Born eighth into a family of 14, Baila started her own at 18. Twenty years later, she is mother to two strong-willed young men and stepmother to three pretty strong-willed little kids. Baila is an innovator with a million big ideas and a crippling procrastination problem who has somehow become an educator and therapist. For more than two decades she has been helping people heal and thrive and studying why and how they do. Most recently, she launched the Loving Leadership Academy for parents and is writing two books. For more information: www.lovingleadershipacademy.com

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