Summary

• Introduction and Background of Participants 

 ◦ The host Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and welcomes Harry, also known as the Ice King, a 31-year-old artist from Detroit, Michigan.

 ◦  Harry, introduces himself, mentioning his family and friends from Detroit.

 ◦ Mattsuuii shares his background, detailing his upbringing in a poverty-stricken family with an abusive father and a gambling mother.

 ◦ He also describes the harsh living conditions, including sleeping in a car and dealing with drug-filled environments.

• Early Influences and Writing Journey 

 ◦ Mattsuuii talks about his early interest in rock music and how he started writing lyrics at six years old.

 ◦ He shares his experience of being in juvenile hall and how it influenced his transition to hip hop.

 ◦ He then goes on to describe his process of studying the dictionary and building a vast vocabulary, which he uses in his lyrics.

 ◦ He mentions his extensive knowledge of literary devices like analogies, metaphors, and homophones.

• First Projects and Record Label 

 ◦ Suuii asks about Harry's first solo project, which he dates back to 2012.

 ◦ He goes onto talk about his record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, which he founded in 2013.

 ◦ He mentions having five artists signed to his label from various countries, including Nigeria and Australia.

 ◦ Harry discusses his collaboration with producers and the streams he receives from international listeners.

• Challenges and Personal Experiences 

 ◦ Ice shares his experience of being shot multiple times and how it changed his perspective on life.

 ◦ Mattsuuii talks about his own experiences with violence, including being shot at 13 and becoming a leader in a gang.

 ◦ They discuss the impact of their past on their current mindset and approach to life and music.

 ◦ Harry emphasizes the importance of using one's talent and not wasting it.

• Differences Between Rap and Hip Hop 

 ◦ Mattsuuii explains his view on the difference between rap and hip hop, emphasizing the emotional depth and storytelling in hip hop.

 ◦ Ice agrees, mentioning that he doesn't rap the same as others and prefers Detroit beats.

 ◦ They discuss the evolution of their styles and the influence of their environments on their music.

 ◦ Suuii shares his admiration for Tech N9ne and the concept of constant energy struggles in life.

• True Artistry and Business Approach 

 ◦ Mattsuuii defines true artistry as the ability to evoke emotions and tell stories through music.

 ◦ Harry talks about his business approach, emphasizing the importance of being an independent artist.

 ◦ They discuss the challenges of working with major record labels and the benefits of maintaining independence.

 ◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience as a ghostwriter and the importance of maintaining creative control.

• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations 

 ◦ Suuii asks about Harry's upcoming projects, and he mentions working on new clothing lines.

 ◦ Mattsuuii talks about his new shirts and his ongoing work on beats and songs.

 ◦ They discuss a song with an open verse that Matt is challenging other artists to contribute to.

 ◦ Matt mentions his upcoming 21-track LP and the importance of meeting deadlines.

• Technical Difficulties and Final Thoughts 

 ◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience of running a successful podcast and the importance of investing in oneself.

 ◦ They then discuss the importance of networking and supporting each other in the music industry.

• Shoutouts and Contact Information

 ◦ They both share their social media handles and contact information for future collaborations.

 ◦ Ice mentions his Facebook and Instagram pages, as well as his business email.

 ◦ Suuii offers to send his music and contact information to Ice.

 ◦ They express mutual appreciation and excitement for future projects and collaborations.