Zwaan de Vries is a teacher and performer in the Roy Hart Theatre and "dansexpressie". We met in the summer of 2018 at Maléragues, France where I was taking a workshop at The Roy Hart Centre called Human Voice-Extended. Zwaan de Vries and Carol Mendelson were co-teaching. I joined them both again in 2019 for the same workshop.

In this episode Zwann and I talk about her journey to the Roy Hart Theatre, why she keeps returning to the practice, and how the voice work connects her to her humanity.