Today, John and Shaun get real about what it means to let go - with grace, awkwardness, and a few unexpected laughs. As the podcast edges toward its final episodes, they reflect on the shifting dynamics of friendship, the tension between presence and performance, and the quiet courage it takes to speak the truth out loud.

From lighthearted debates about minivans and shower preferences to deeper moments of emotional honesty, this conversation holds space for both the silly and the sincere - and leaves room for what comes next.

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