In this episode Lydia and Lucy are joined again by Mr Mohamed Aly, Consultant Upper GI Surgeon at The Hillingdon Hospital NHS Foundation Trust in northwest London along with Mr Alan ASKARI, Consultant Surgeon in Bariatric, Upper GI, & General Surgery at Bedfordshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Their conversation covers various aspects of surgical training, including the balance between competency-based learning and meeting numerical targets, the challenges of the current training system and strategies for trainees to make the most of their learning experiences.

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