The YouTuber Jimmy Donaldson, better known as MrBeast, discusses fame, why he thinks YouTube is the best place platform for creators and how he tries to avoid controversy. Then Chief executive of Beast Industries, Jeff Housenbold, joins Mr. Donaldson to discuss how the duo work together — and why they take so few days off.

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