This episode featured MrJeffDess who is a writer, professor, public speaker, emcee and co-founder of Trill or Not Trill. The conversation is eclectic as the other talents Jeff has including rapping and a lapel pin collector. The podcast shares ideas for how to incorporate pop culture into leadership education – such as his popular blog post about Beyoncé’s album Lemonade and the Social Change Model. Jeff also challenges listeners to bring a realness and swagger into their work, and even on Snapchat. Finally, we chat about the election and what it means to #DoTheWork from here.