Hannah Kirkpatrick will tell you that she's never experienced trauma and had what she describes as the "perfect childhood". She somehow ended up abusing alcohol - she says she became a food addict & depressed. She battled perfectionism, trying to be the perfect person for everyone. Her world came crashing down. Everything fell apart including her marriage. But, she got help. She admitted herself into an outpatient program and got involved in multiple 12-step recovery groups. Then, she ran for Mrs. American and won with a platform of overcoming addiction. I had lots of questions like "how does someone with no trauma become an addict?" Hannah may have had an ah-ha moment during the podcast and realized she did in fact suffer quite a bit of trauma in her childhood that sent her life spiraling. This has to be one of the most fascinating podcasts I have ever recorded.