Jamie Topples is a Magic content creator and painter. Jon Rigatti is a Magic player and musician. Together, this incredible couple makes sweet Magic happen.

--

0:03:30 Jon is a musician / Jamie likes to sing and dance

0:11:29 Jon introduced Jamie to Magic

0:19:12 how Jamie started streaming Magic

0:27:15 Jamie's first draft and LGS end boss

0:31:44 Jamie's streaming motivation

0:33:08 Jon's current relationship with Magic

0:36:19 MTGO vs. Magic Arena

0:41:47 2020 meetups - Taalia Vess, Lady Lavinias, Ben Wheeler and Hunter Pence

0:46:20 "the last GP" and table talking with Jaberwocki, aka Logan Nettles

0:48:43 shout-out to Melvin the Muppet

0:50:59 how Jamie joined The Ponder Podcast

0:52:20 Jamie was a massage therapist / Steve Rubin / talking Magic at weddings

0:57:26 how Jamie and Jon first met (**MUST LISTEN**)

1:04:44 joint passions: music, video games, card games

1:07:48 sacred cows in Magic / Jamie goes IN on 17Lands.com

1:18:24 spontaneity makes Magic drafts great

1:20:05 balancing watchability vs. winning as a streamer

1:24:42 losing gems SUCKS - James can relate

1:28:07 Limited Resources, Marshall Sutcliffe and Luis Scott-Vargas

1:33:10 Jamie had a dream about Marshall Sutcliffe...as Hoard Dragon

1:39:26 the time Jamie registered 41 cards

1:41:08 Jamie does painting commissions!

1:48:50 Jamie's favorite band - Coheed and Cambria

1:52:58 rapid-fire Q&A

--

opening track: Eoin Mantell / Whimsical Stroll / courtesy of epidemicsound.com

Show notes: humansofmagic.com

Patreon: patreon.com/humansofmagic