Conversations With Animals

Multi-species liberation movements with Dr. Kris Hill & Dr. Thomas Aiello


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Juliana speaks with Dr. Thomas Aiello and Dr. Kris Hill, two authors of “Nonhuman Animals as Symbols in the #BlackLivesMatter Protests of 2020" about racialized animals, the ethics of using animals in protest, and the interspecies dynamics of police brutality.


Conversations With Animals is a monthly conversation hosted by Juliana examining our interconnection with animal lives. Subscribe here: animal.julianaroth.com

Dr. Kris Hill holds a PhD in Anthrozoology. Since 2019, she authored or co-authored 15 peer-reviewed papers that are accepted or in print, have a further three under review, and two more in preparation. Amongst others, she has published in Society & Animals (SOAN), Anthrozoös, and Animal Studies Journal (ASJ). In 2023 she established the Cat Academic Think Tank (e-CATT), a cross-disciplinary group of academics whose interests are related to domestic cats (Felis catus) or small wild cat species. 


Dr. Thomas Aiello is a professor of history, Africana studies, and anthrozoology. He received his first PhD from the University of Arkansas in 2007 and his second from the University of Exeter in 2021. The bulk of his courses relate to all measures of African American history, from early slavery to Black Power, and all aspects of animal studies. His research interests are broader, covering twentieth century United States cultural and intellectual history, twentieth century African American cultural and intellectual history in a variety of different settings, and animal studies, critical animal studies, and anthrozoology.

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Juliana is a writer, professor, filmmaker, and performer. She formerly lived as a volunteer on an organic farm in Maine, out of a backpack in the wilderness of Utah’s La Sal Mountains, and worked for the Ecology Center. Her writing appears in The Breakwater Review, Irish Pages, Los Angeles Review of Books as well as being produced as independent films that she directs. Her web series, The University, was nominated by the International Academy of Web Television for Best Drama Writing and screened at survivor justice nonprofits across the country. A 2022-23 Emerging Writer Fellow at The Center for Fiction, she currently teaches writing at NYU.⁠

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