Lacey and Nik speak to Murphy Jensen, a Grand Slam doubles champion and the Co-Founder of WeConnect Recovery, an app that supports folks in recovery through contingency management and direct cooperation with the person's care team. They speak to Murphy about his rise to tennis stardom, which included winning the French Open Doubles with his brother Luke, and about his experience with substance use; the impact it had on his brother and how it ultimately came to a head while Murphy was at the U.S Open and his first child was being born. They also talk about how Murphy came to help create the WeConnect app and how it supports people’s recovery. Murphy also describes what contingency management looks like and how effective it can be.