Jeremy Toback is one half of the hush indie-folk group Renee & Jeremy. These two have made a speciality — actually, an art form — of turning popular songs into delightful little lullabies. The latest is Madonna’s Lucky Star. But they also write great originals. One of them, Here and Now, sounds a lot like our theme song here at How to Tickle Yourself. One of us must have stolen the idea from the other. Or, more likely, we are singing from the same songbook about things like presence – the vital importance of focusing on what’s happening to you in this very moment. Renee & Jeremy have been releasing singles from their latest album, shout! (a cover of the Tears for Fears hit) in recent weeks. The entire thing is due out this summer. It’s a winner. Check it out Renee & Jeremy on Spotify. But first, have a listen as we talk to Jeremy about songwriting, the music business, spirituality, and how forgiveness might just be the answer to everything.

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