Just how much has the practice of law changed in the last 50 years? We're going to learn how much from two men who have practiced here in Cleveland for more than half a century.

Cleveland Municipal Court Judge Charles L. Patton, Jr. and Richard S. Koblentz have seen it all, from dictation machines and ashtrays, to Zoom meetings and AI. Has it been a change for the better? Listen as two old friends share a history of downtown and of Cleveland's legal community.