What does it mean to move through the world in a body that’s always political? In this episode, Karen and Jonelle unpack a powerful statement from a Black speaker—“My body is always political”—and explore the privilege of not having to think about how our bodies are judged, policed, or made into symbols. From airport observations to experiences shaped by body size, sexual orientation, racial identity, and physical ability, the conversation dives deep into how systems assign value and meaning to our existence. They confront the discomfort of being white women who’ve been taught to avoid “politics” and discuss how even well-meaning actions—like curiosity or tokenism—can further marginalize others. This episode isn’t about fixing or centering white guilt—it’s about honest recognition, unlearning bias, and doing better.

If you’ve ever wondered what it means to be seen, used, or erased by society before you say a word—this conversation is for you.

Call to Action:

• Interrogate Infantilization – Are you observing or truly engaging? Stop making marginalized identities the subject of your education or fascination.
• Shift Without Centering – Support change without needing to lead it. Let those directly impacted by oppression determine the path forward.
• Break the Silence Reflex – Challenge the idea that staying neutral is safe. Start talking about how power, privilege, and visibility shape every space we move through.

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