On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my ex-work spouse and good buddy Rich. Here’s some of what we talk about:

First Question: What is the best thing you’ve done since you got laid off?

• we talk about problems with authority (surprise, surprise) and being self-employed vs being employed as part of an organization
• we cover our shared history and paranoia, and discuss the organization we both worked for
• what did we both like best about working with the other one?
• we share war stories of working for PR agencies early in our careers
• how to deliver honesty and tough feedback to business leadership and the most amount of grief he’s ever taken in a role
• if Rich could design his own role from carte blanche, how would he do it?
• do we love what we do? for one of us it’s complicated, for the other not so much
• a lamentation for the lack of institutional support for entrepreneurs
• how do you handle someone who you have to work with who may not be acting in good faith?
•  what are Rich’s plans for the rest of his severance?

Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.

Logo by Nebulus Visions.

Produced by Deft Communications.

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Recorded at Barquentine Brewing.