Ed van der Molen and AJ Langley speak about the fourteenth-century French mystic and holy woman Marie de Maillé (1331-1414). We talk about chaste marriage and the benefits of marrying your childhood best friend. We also talk about the fine line between witches and saints, magical ointments, carts miraculously blocking roads, and how biographers should care about the content of visions (at least for the sake of historians).