This week Josh talks about L.A.'s heatwave, nerding out on Ancestry.com, the story of when his mother met her dead father, and Appalachian folk magic aka granny magic. Then he's joined by his guest Benjamin Siemon, an actor, writer, comedian, and puppeteer (he's been on Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.) Benjamin is a three on the woo-woo scale. They discussion writing for animation, writers rooms In quarantine, gay dating apps, Soup Plantation and Aunt Jemimah, how the Squidbillies guy came for Dolly Parton, Josh when he was an actor playing exclusively mean gay waiters, how Benjamin was nearly "the puppet guy" on Real World: New Orleans, The Muppets, how bad they both want to see ghosts, Unsolved Mysteries and Sightings, The Winchester Mansion, The Craft and Wicca, Return to Oz and Fairuza Balk, then a deep dive on the truly wild Human Design aka the new astrology. Benjamin Is a Cancer Sun, Aquarius Moon, Taurus rising. Josh gives him a quick tarot reading, which Benjamin hates.